Talk Given by Dr. Jumsai

Sathya Sai Baba

Sathya Sai Baba


Talk Given by Dr. Jumsai
“Education in Human Values”
March 28th, 2005

OM… OM… OM…
Shanti Shanti Shantihi

I offer my loving pranams at the Divine Lotus Feet of Bhagavan Baba. Sai Ram to all of you.

(Audience) “Sai Ram! Sai Ram!”

I think that this session can be questions and answers rather than giving a talk. So, if you have any questions or if you like to ask anything, I will try to answer.

SOCIAL TRANSFORMATION DRIVEN BY EDUCATION IN HUMAN VALUES
Question: Maybe you could talk to us about Education in Human Values, how it influences our lives, the lives of youth, and education. Maybe you could repeat the example about what you said in Barcelona about children trying and trying. There was some experiment. We would like to hear that example once again.

Answer: Education in Human Values is really the main mission of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba. It is through this education that Swami has said His Message will be known all over the world. It is through this education that peace will be established in the world. In fact, Swami has started another trust called the ‘Sri Sathya Sai Trust for World Peace’, and education will be the main work of the new trust.

Thus, education is going to become more and more important in the world. The reason is because children, when they go through this system of education, are transformed. And when children are transformed, then the teachers very quickly are also transformed (although the teachers should first transform themselves before they teach children!) (Laughter) But you know, as in the Sathya Sai School in Thailand, many teachers come from many places. They are not devotees. But then, when they come close to the children who are full of love, they become transformed. And when children go back home, they transform the parents.

So, in this way, the society is getting transformed. That’s why it is very important that we work hard to set up Sathya Sai schools as model schools in every country in the world. Right now we have 57 Sathya Schools in 35 countries. 40% of all the Sathya Sai schools are in Latin America. So, there is a lot of work in Spanish-speaking countries in Latin America. We have done a lot of research in trying to find out what is happening in all the Sathya Sai schools in the world. And we have made several case studies of children studying in Sathya Sai schools. Everywhere we find that there is lot of transformation in the children. And then, it goes on to the teachers, the parents and the society. So Swami is encouraging all of us to contin ueto do this work. I just talked to Swami yesterday and He told me, “Work hard on education.”

(As if I am not working hard!) I am already working very hard. (Laughter) So He really wants to push very hard to make sure that His education, which is now changing quite a bit to what we call ‘Educare’, is going around the world.

BRINGING SATHYA SAI EDUCARE TO SAUDI ARABIA
Now it is not only in the West or in the East, but where you have the strongholds of Islam, that they are also interested in Sathya Sai Education in Human Values. For example, in Saudi Arabia, which is the headquarters where the religion of Islam is based.

A few years back, I was asked to go and give training to teachers in Saudi Arabia. The organiser was actually a medical doctor who comes from Denmark. But he is in a hospital where he treats the princes of Saudi Arabia. So he had a lot of influence.

So he asked me to go there to give a seminar. But then, they sent me a thick book like that. And in that thick book, it tells you what you cannot say in Saudi Arabia. (Laughter) They say that for a foreigner, who is not a Muslim, you cannot talk about Islam. If you do so, your head will be cut off. (Laughter) I am not allowed to talk about values. Because they have their own values, and they don’t want any more values, they say.

The medical doctor said he would arrange all the visas for me to come. But finally, they said, “we don’t need anybody to come and train our teachers.” So, they rejected the visa application.

At that time, I was Secretary to the Minister of Foreign Affairs in Thailand. So I told the medical doctor, “Don’t worry. I will get my own visa.” I went to the Ambassador of Saudi Arabia in Bangkok and you know, diplomatically, you cannot refuse a visa for the Secretary to the Minister of Foreign Affairs. So they gave me a visa, as well as one to Dr. Tudo, who was my associate. We would go together to do training in those days.

So, I contacted the doctor and told him that we were coming to give this talk. They gave me a warning that when we go through immigration, they will question us as to why we want to come to this place, as it is not a tourist place and there’s nothing for us to visit once we come. And so, we were told that like that they will question you for a long, long time on entry.

So, I just sang the song, “Why fear when I am here?” (Laughter) And we walked straight through immigration! Nobody saw us. (Laughter) We were out within ten minutes. And the organisers weren’t there. They thought we would be delayed for at least an hour. We were outside waiting one hour before they came!

Well, finally, they came. They took us to our place where we are going to stay. And the next morning, we had a meeting with the leaders of education in Saudi Arabia. They were all so afraid of us being there. They said, “You got to be so careful what you say. Because here, you cannot say what you want to say. You have to be so careful.”

Then the teachers who were invited to come were also protesting. They said that they will report to the religious police everything we say. In Saudi Arabia, they have police especially for religion. They will protect their religion. So, they need a lot of police people.

Well, again I have to sing, “Why fear when I am here?” (Laughter)

So says Sathya Sai Baba, Sathya Sai Baba, Sathya Sai Baba, My Lord. The next day, we had our seminar. The Muslim teachers were all there, trying to catch any mistake that we made.

I spoke for three hours. And the Muslim teachers were in tears. They came up to me and said, “Is this what we were against? No! This is something that we really need for our country, for Saudi Arabia.” They were all so happy to hear what we presented to them, which was the essence of Sathya Sai Education.

And then in the afternoon, Dr. Tudo spoke for another three hours. But this time, there was no problem. Everybody wanted to hear! The miracle doctor, who is the Danish man, he was lying in the back of the lecture hall. He was lying down because he had terminal cancer. It was his last wish in the world that Sathya Sai Education should be heard in Saudi Arabia. And he was in tears as well, because he was so happy about the whole proceeding. Then two or three days after that, he passed away.

So, you see the power of Sathya Sai Baba, getting the education, which is His main mission, to go to every country in the world.

TRANSFORMATION OF EMIRATES MINISTER OF EDUCATION
I would just like to tell you another story in another Muslim country; this time in United Arab Emirates. We were invited there to speak at an Indian school. There they don’t mind if we to talk to an Indian school because it is for Indians only. But to make it really official, they called the Minister of Education to come and open the function. His name is Sheikh Nahayan. He came to open the conference on Sathya Sai Education in Human Values for teachers.

Well, the Sheikh, I met him at the beginning, before we started the function. He said that he is a very busy man and he has to go to another meeting. So he would like to hear me for about 15 minutes, no more. Then I have to stop so that he can make an exit, so he can go out.

So after the opening session, after everybody spoke officially, then I was asked to speak for minutes. So I went up on stage and Sheikh Nahayan was sitting in front of me, in front of the audience. I spoke for 15 minutes, and then I stopped and looked at the Sheikh. But the Sheikh would not get up. He looked at me and he said, “Go on, go on, go on…” (Laughter)

So I continued for another 15 minutes, and then I stopped and looked at him again. (Laughter) And he would not get up but said, “Go on, go on, go on…” (Laughter) So I had to stop for every 15 minutes, but he would say, “Go on, go on, go on…” This went on for over three hours! (Laughter)

Then the Sheikh asked to go on the stage, asking for the microphone. There he announced publicly that this program was such a great program that he wants all the teachers in United Arab Emirates to be trained.

True to his word, three months later, I received an official invitation from the United Arab Emirates Education Department to go there to train the teachers. I was put up in the best hotel in the world. (Laughter) They claim it is the best hotel in the world. And I have never been to such a luxurious hotel in my life. (Laughter)

And then, they arranged a big meeting in the government hall. It is really very big, and there were so many invitees and there were 1500 teachers there. 70% of all the teachers who came were Muslims. But there were about 30% who were Americans or had come from European countries and so on, to help in the teaching in United Arab Emirates.

So, I gave a talk and they were very happy. Since then, I had to go back again to talk to the teachers. During the last session I had in United Arab Emirates, not very long ago — only about three months ago, Sheikh Nahayan also came to listen. And again Sheikh Nahayan, who is the Minister of Education sat there and listened to all my presentation.

STORY OF THE KING WHO WAS AFRAID OF HIS WIVES
You know, in my presentation I told the story about the king who had five wives. You know the story, right? You don’t know the story?!!

There was a king who had five wives. And each wife would make a lot of demands: “I want this, I want that.” So they were always asking the king. And the king was afraid of his wives. He had to go and get things for the wives, as all the five wives were all very demanding. So the king was not happy. Thus he went to consult his cabinet ministers. “What can I do, so that I won’t be afraid of my wives?”

But the ministers, as they were all men said, “Sorry, Sire. We cannot advise you because we are also afraid of our wives!” (Laughter)

So they thought, “Let us try to find some man who is not afraid of his wife in this kingdom. Then we will consult him as to why he is not afraid, and he can tell us and advise us.”

So, the king invited all the male population to come for a big meeting. On that day, they planned to put up a tent for those who are afraid of their wives: Everybody who is afraid of their wife must go to that tent. Then there was to be another tent for those who were not afraid of their wives. In this way, the men were to be separated. The idea was that they would go to the tent of those who are not afraid of their wives and get advice from the men there.

So the big day came. All the male population came for the meeting, but they all went into the tent for those who are afraid of their wives. Nobody came into the other tent.

The king was getting very upset. “Are there no men in this country who are not afraid of their wives?”

But at the last minute, one man did come to the tent for those who are not afraid. Seeing this, the king rushed to see that man. The king said, “Tell me your secret. How are you not afraid of your wife?”

But the man said, “Sorry, Sire. I am also afraid of my wife.”

The king was very angry and said, “Why did you come into this tent? You have got to go to the other tent!”

The man said, “I will not go. You can punish me or you can do whatever you like; but I won’t go.”

So the king asked, “Why? Why won’t you go?”

And the man replied, “Because my wife told me to come to this tent!” (Laughter) Swami told this story to all of us in the past. It is to illustrate that we are like the king. The five senses are the five wives. When our eyes see something beautiful, the eyes create a desire: “I want this, I want that.” And we are afraid of our five senses. We don’t control our five senses. We allow them to control us. So, Swami is urging us to become the king once again, and not the slave of the five senses. Thus, the first step in our lives is to learn to control the five senses.

When I told this story to the assembly in United Arab Emirates, the Sheikh was laughing and laughing, and he was telling everybody, “In United Arab Emirates, we are only allowed four wives!” (Laughter) He was joking; he was actually very happy about it.

So you see, that is another success story in another Muslim country. And now, I am doing a lot of training in Muslim countries.

SATHYA SAI EDUCATION IN INDONESIA AND KAZAKHSTAN
In Indonesia, it is very easy as they are very open. Now I’ve got to go and do a series of training for Muslim teachers in Indonesia.

Another place where Sathya Sai Education is really spreading is Kazakhstan. The original people who lived in Kazakhstan are called Kazakhs. The Kazakhs are Muslims. And again, we were invited by the First Lady of Kazakhstan, who is a Kazakh. We started training in all the regions of the country. I’ve been there six times already.

Then last February, the First Lady came here to meet Swami. And the First Lady asked me to come, so that we could meet Swami together. So I came and we had several interviews. Swami looked at me every time He called the Kazakh people. He said, “You are not Kazakh!” (Laughter)

Then He told me, “This is only for Kazakhstan.”

So I looked sad. (Laughter) Swami looked at me and said, “Alright, alright. You can go in.” (Laughter)

So you see, God is not just Father and Mother. Sometimes, you have to treat Him as a Friend. Sometimes, you treat Him as an Elder Brother. But He is also our Father and Mother. As such, He always has a lot of compassion and a lot of love for all of us.

Another country where we are now really going into is China. China is the last stronghold of communism. But when I go in there, I see that they are becoming very quickly a capitalist country. The whole country is changing and they are moving rapidly into industrialisation. And because they moved very quickly into materialism, they have a lot of problems with their youth. So now, there is a demand for human values there as well.

I have already gone into the Guandong Province to train teachers there. And now, I have got an indication from the Nanjing local authorities to go and train teachers there as well. And you know how it happened? (Murmurs “no, no” in audience)

TRANSFORMATION OF UNESCO OFFICIAL
You remember in the year 2000, we had an international conference here. When we started arranging the conference, we were working with UNESCO and another university in Australia, Flinders University. The UNESCO man at that time was not a devotee, but I brought him here to meet Swami. And Swami called him in for an interview. I tried to follow as usual. (Laughter) But this time, Swami said, “No, you can’t go in.” No matter how sad I looked, (Laughter) He would not allow me to go in. That man came out of the interview room. He had a green ring on, and his face was changed; he was completely transformed by Swami. He came out and he embraced me, “You are now my brother.” (Laughter)

Then he asked me if I had been telling Swami about him, because Swami knew everything about him! I said that I didn’t know anything about his personal life. But Swami was talking about his personal life. So he told me what it was about, and he gave me permission to tell all these stories to everyone.

Swami told him, “You are very worried. You are unhappy because your wife is dying. She has terminal cancer.” But Swami said, “Don’t worry about it. I will cure her.” And He materialised some vibhuthi and gave it to him to give to his wife. So he was very happy, but he thought that I had told Swami all about his wife. But I didn’t know anything about this. I had never met his wife, and I didn’t know anything about all that.

So he asked me then, “How does Swami know?”

I just smiled. Anyway, he went back, and he gave the vibhuthi to his wife. A few months later, he invited me to have dinner with them because they are based in Bangkok at the regional headquarters of UNESCO. His wife was perfectly normal, completely cured.

TRANSFORMATION OF CHINESE EDUCATIONIST IN CONFERENCE
Unfortunately, he was moved to another position. He was stationed in Berlin, Germany. So a new person came to take over the work while we were preparing for the big international conference. There was only one month to go before the conference. Then the new man came and said, “I don’t know anything about this. I don’t want to have anything to do with it.” At that time, there were lot of attacks on our organisation. Many people wrote to the UNESCO headquarters that they had better cancel all this, that UNESCO should not be involved with the Sathya Sai Organisation. But UNESCO had already invited everybody from around the world, very important people, and people in the top positions in education in every country. They were all going to be coming.

Then finally, UNESCO told me, “Sorry, we are pulling out.”

But I continued, and we had our conference without UNESCO. The people came from all over the world because they had already been invited; they had got their visas, their air tickets and so on. So, they had all decided to come. Amongst these people, there were top-level people from China in education. And Swami put them right in front in the veranda for every darshan. There was this one Chinese educator, educationist. He was sitting there and he was watching Swami very carefully. After two or three days, he was so impressed when he saw Swami, and he was completely changed. He was sitting there on the veranda, doing this: he was shaking there, and I could see that he was crying. Then after the conference, he contacted me and invited me to go and train teachers there.

CALL FOR WORLD PEACE BY SWAMI’S 90th BIRTHDAY
You know, I have been trying hard to get into China, but I have been unsuccessful. I have been there. I have tried to talk to people; they are not interested in outside education. But because of that UNESCO conference, when UNESCO pulled out, we got a lot of very good contacts all over the world. Also with Hong Kong, part of mainland China, we have a big centre there and we are now helping from Hong Kong as well. China is now completely open and we are going to go there more and more and train their teachers.

So, now you see how the Sathya Sai Education in Human Values is going to all corners of the world. And close devotees of Swami are whispering into my ear that big changes are coming very, very soon. Swami also said very clearly that peace will come sooner than what you expect.

So, I don’t know if some of you were in the public lecture the other day. I told everybody that by the 90th birthday, we are going to celebrate peace in the world. I have been telling everybody that we love Swami so much, why wait for Prema Sai to have peace. Let us work during this Avatar. And things are really moving at a very fast speed now. You don’t have to change everybody in the world to have peace. You just have to have a little bit more than 50% of love, over hatred and negative thoughts — just a little bit over 50%! Then, there will be peace in the world!!

If you see all the Sathya Sai schools around the world, you will find that there is so much love there. Some of you may have seen the videos by Gene Massey. Have you seen them? He goes around the world taking videos around the world. And he has said very clearly that he has seen the beginning of the new age of peace. That’s why Swami is spending so much time with the students and with the professors.

Well, that is the story of the changes that are taking place very rapidly through Education in Human Values.

LOVE WILL REDUCE HARMFUL EFFECTS OF GLOBAL WARMING
In Thailand, in the Sathya Sai School, we are doing the same thing. We are promoting love. The only rule in the Sathya Sai School is the rule of love. The children grow a lot of plants. And every time we grow a plant, we send love to the plant first.

Now we are growing rice in a big way in our school. Because I told everybody we must be self-sufficient.

We must be able to feed everybody with rice without having to buy from outside. So, many times throughout the year, we will go into the paddy fields. The children and the teachers will go into the paddy fields, which are filled with water and mud. The children love it. And we always start with a prayer. Then we will recite the Gayatri Mantra. And then, we start to plant the rice.

Children love to play in the muddy field. But at the same time, we send love to all the plants. Well, at one time, (we don’t do it so often now), the children planted a field and there was a field next door, where the staff and people from outside planted rice. We grew them at the same time; we planted at the same time. We observed that where the children planted, the rice grew at a much faster rate. When the time of harvesting came, the rice plants were much taller and there was much more rice harvested from the children’s field.

So, love really works. If we give a lot of love, plants will grow. So that’s one thing that we really need to do in the world today: to fill the atmosphere of the world with love. Then all the plants, forests and so on will grow at a much faster rate. And this will reduce the effect of the global warming in the world. It will take away the carbon dioxide, absorb the carbon dioxide, so that the temperature will reduce in the world.

Right now, because of the warming effect, the ice in the North Pole and South Pole are melting. The other month I was in Nanjing, in China, to talk about this training of teachers. The scientists there were measuring the level of the sea water. They now see two to three millimetres increase in the level of sea water every year.

Well, this is going to be a big problem for our world. As the sea level increases, the weight of he ocean over the earth will also increase. The biggest ocean in the world is the Pacific Ocean. So the earth will become unbalanced because there is more water on one side. On the other side, we have lot of land masses like Asia, Europe and Africa.

What happens is that the world, which is rotating in space, will start to wobble a little bit. And that will speed up the earth. The earth crust is divided into plates and is floating around. So we will start to have a big movement, more and more.

By giving out a lot of love, all through the day, then we can lessen that effect. There’s no need to have a lot of disasters in the world. That’s why the Avatar is here. That’s why we have Sathya Sai schools around the world. That’s why the Sathya Sai Organisation is everywhere, in every country. That’s why we have a lot of bhajans. Because when we sing bhajans, we are filled with love. So, the whole organisation must work hard to produce a lot of love in the world.

I took an hour to answer one question! (Laughter) Any other questions or you want to stop? It’s 11:30.

PLANT THE SEED AND IT WILL GROW
Question: Is it necessary to teach Education in Human Values to children below eight years, for example, for only two months, if afterwards they are not going to continue it any more? Is it worthwhile? Is it necessary?

Dr. Jumsai: Why aren’t they continuing?

Questioner: Because the teacher will be changed.

Dr. Jumsai: In the school?

Questioner: She is not talking about a regular school. She wants to know if it is worthwhile to start the human values.

Dr. Jumsai: It is always worthwhile to plant a seed for future generations. But then we should train all the teachers of the country. We should never stop with only a few teachers and say, “Aaah, we’ve done our job.” In Thailand, we have trained over 60,000 teachers already. And now, we don’t have to train any more teachers. The reason is because they are so interested in the program that they come and study for themselves. We don’t have to go to them anymore.

We have over 200 teachers and educators who come to visit our school every week now. The Ministry of Education recommend to everybody to come and visit our school. And they are all coming; so we don’t need to go out anymore. This is what we want in every country, so that the movement will spread very quickly.

Like Victor Kanu and his Zambia school; now people are coming to see his school because the school is known as the ‘miracle’ school. You heard the students of Swami talking in the last few days about how they have been affected by what is taught in his school. And most of them came only for a two-year course. They were not devotees before that. So after two years, there’s no more education; they go out into the world. But the seed has been planted, and they grow and grow wherever they are.

SWAMI IN FIJI ISLANDS SATHYA SAI SCHOOL
So you ask, “Is it worthwhile to give them Sathya Sai Education or Human Values education?” I say, “Yes!” Always plant the seed. It will grow on its own. There was a meeting last week with eminent educationists. They came for a big meeting here. They were arguing, because most of them are not devotees. They were arguing, “Is it possible to do the same thing as what Swami has done here in other countries?”

And because they don’t know Swami, they said that it can only take place here in Puttaparthi as Swami is physically present here. So I decided to tell them that it’s not only happening in Puttaparthi. It is happening in many places. As an example, I gave the example of the Fiji Sathya Sai School in Fiji Islands. It is the only place on the Fiji Islands where there is no conflict between the Christians and the Hindus. The children, 50% of each, mix together. They are brothers and sisters. They are filled with love. I went to visit that school in the Fiji Islands.

And I saw the best, cleanest toilets in the whole world. They were burning incense sticks, and they lit candles there, and they worship in the toilet!!

So I asked them, “Why? Why worship in the toilet?”

They said that one day they saw Swami walking in the school, inspecting the school. Then, Swami walked into the toilet. They all rushed and followed him into the toilet. But Swami had already gone! And because of that, the children decided to come every morning, clean everything, light candles, light incense sticks and pray in the toilet.

So, I gave this as an example to the educators to say that Swami is everywhere and therefore, we can replicate and copy what is going on here anywhere. Then they stopped arguing. No more argument after that.

So, I hope I have answered your question.

TALKING TO EDUCATORS IN MEXICO
Question: For people outside India, how many training institutes are here?

Dr. Jumsai: Well, we have set up institutes of Sathya Sai Education. Now, we have about 30 around the world. And the institutes are set up to train teachers. In Thailand, we also accept people from all over the world to be trained at our institute. In Thailand, so far we have about 60,000 people trained. We have to do it twice a week all through the year. But in other countries, they do it maybe once a month or even less. But now, we have got to do more and more.

I travel around a lot, but I cannot do all the training around the world. It is up to the people in each locality. I have just been recently to a Spanish-speaking country — Mexico. And I gave a big talk to about 900 educators there. You know, I was so ill when I arrived in Mexico. And I had to have some, you know, they sent me some spiritual healers to heal me. The next day, I was supposed to speak. But still, the next day I was not feeling very well. So, I could not really talk. It was very difficult to talk as my mind was not clear at all.

So I said to Swami in my mind, “You take over this body. You have to do the work. I can’t do it. You have to do it.”

And I went onto the stage. I started to speak. There was one translator who was translating into Spanish. And then, I didn’t know what I was talking at all. I talked for two hours. And you know the people there were so moved by what had been said.

One young girl came up and said she had been trying to commit suicide three or four times, but each time, she did not die. But when she listened to the talk, somehow her heart was shaking and she was moved. And she went to her parents and said, I have decided that I am not going to kill myself anymore. I am going to live; I am going to serve other people. She was completely changed.

And even the organisers of the conference and all the participants said that something was moving in their heart. Many people were so moved that they all want to do education in human values. And I didn’t even know what I was saying!!

PEACE WILL COME SOONER THAN WE EXPECT
So, you see that’s the power of Sai everywhere throughout the world. Changing people, we are going to bring about this new age of peace. There will be peace. Swami has promised that it will come sooner than what we expect.

Previously, He said there will be peace in the time of Prema Sai. We know Swami is here for another 16 years. Then, one year after that, Prema Sai will be born. So, the time of Prema Sai will start 17 years from now. So, we can expect that in 17 years, there will be peace. But Swami said that peace will come sooner than what you expect. And He kept on stressing that it will be very, very, very soon.

So, that’s why Sri Indulal Shah announced that we will celebrate the 90th birthday as the spiritual regeneration of mankind. And that’s when we expect that there will be complete peace in the world.

DEVELOP A LOVING ATTITUDE — SEND LOVE INTO THE WORLD
Question: Sir, yesterday it was said that if more people develop a more loving attitude in theworld, Swami would heal Himself. Is it true?

Dr. Jumsai: I bet! (Laughter) Swami is taking on the karma of the world. And if there are more positive thoughts, more love in the world, He does not have to take on any karma. So if all the centres in the world, if the whole organisation filled with love, always radiating love, Swami won’t need to take on any karma. The time is approaching when He will walk well again, bewell again, soon.

I will tell you a secret. (Laughter) Yesterday, without any prompting — I did not ask Swami to go anywhere — He said to me, “I am going to Thailand.” But, don’t worry, it doesn’t mean that He will go to Thailand only; He will go to many countries. So in order to do that, He has to heal Himself first.

I’ll tell you another secret. (Laughter) Yesterday, I asked Swami, “Please, Swami, walk again.” Swami said, “I am walking all the time! As soon as I get back to my room, I am walking there!” (Laughter) “But outside, the doctors won’t allow me to walk.” (Laughter) “And my students won’t allow me to walk. They are afraid that I will fall again! But I am walking in my apartment.” So He is already healing Himself. But we must send out a lot of love into the world. So, pray, and pray and pray and send out love for the whole world. He will definitely walk. Remember, it’s a secret! (Laughter)

USE LOVE AS THE BASIS FOR ALL ACTIONS
Question: You spoke in one of the meetings that while training the teachers, instead of reacting from our subconscious, we must react from our human values when relating to other people. Would you please explain about this?

Dr. Jumsai: The subconscious contains all of our past information, anything we have received, anything we have done, anything we have thought; all past experiences are stored in the subconscious. We all react because of the information, the data that has been stored in our subconscious.

So, a child could be aggressive because he uses the subconscious reaction. It is an automatic reaction, and we cannot control it normally because it will come out from the subconscious. So, the first thing we have to teach our children and all of us is to start to use discrimination. When we receive something, we start to have thoughts automatically. What should we do? The reaction will start. So train yourself and train the children to immediately ask two questions:

  1. Is it good for me?
  2. Is it good for everybody?

If it passes these two questions, these two tests, then by all means, react to it.

Swami tells us that this is what He calls ‘fundamental discrimination’. And it should be taught when they are really young, so that they will always use fundamental discrimination. At the same time, before reacting to anything, apply the human values. Use love. Love should be the main thing that we use for any reaction. So, love has to be the basis for all our actions and that will appear as human value till we get rid of the negativity that is in our subconscious. So, the next thing you need to do is to raise the consciousness towards God. Then we start to contact the higher consciousness, which is there in all of us. That is where we have our conscience that tells us, ‘this is good’ or ‘this is bad’. Then we don’t need to rely on our subconscious anymore because now we will get guidance from God. And our life will be transformed completely as a result.

So we have to practice and practice meditation. Practice going into the silence, because that is where God is. It should be done every day.

I am afraid it is past 12:00. I am leaving today. In the afternoon, I have my flight and I haven’t packed my bag yet, so I think it should end the session.

Thank you very much for your super attention. (Laughter and Applause) Let’s end with “Loka Samastha”. Let’s send love.

Loka Samastha Sukhino Bhavantu
Loka Samastha Sukhino Bhavantu
Loka Samastha Sukhino Bhavantu
Om Shanti Shanti Shanti
Sai Ram!

Sathya Sai Baba And The Yadalams Of Bukkapatnam

Bhagavan Baba

Bhagavan Baba


Sathya Sai Baba And The Yadalams of Bukkapatnam
They had known the sublime in Bhagawan

Literature on the experiences of devotees of Bhagawan Sri Sathya Sai Baba particularly in the 50’s and before, are full of reference to the Yadalam family of Bukkapatnam, who provided refreshment and conveyance for pilgrims heading towards Puttaparthi.

The family they talked about was that of Yadalam Venkataramanappa and Yadalam Nagamma. They were one of the first families outside Puttaparthi to recognise Bhagawan’s divinity.

They became devotees of Bhagawan in a very interesting manner. Yadalam Venkataramanappa had come to Puttaparthi hearing of Bhagawan’s glory. He had in mind three questions that he intended to ask Bhagawan: his own health, his business and his daughter’s family problem. When he arrived at Puttaparthi, he was disheartened to see a huge crowd of devotees in front of the house where Bhagawan was staying. Venkataramanappa lost hope and stood at the rear. Within a few minutes, Bhagawan sent for him. Venkataramanappa was taken by surprise, more so when Bhagawan recounted all the problems and assured the latter of His grace and protection. Venkataramanappa then invited Bhagawan to his house at Bukkapatnam, offered Him padapuja and even took Him out in a decorated procession.

Bhagawan became a regular visitor to the Yadalam house. He was very playful with the entire family. He proudly wore the garlands they made and went about singing songs. He would even take out ornaments family heirlooms, put them on and ask others how He looked. When His legs ached out of exhausting walks, Yadalam Nagamma would arrange hot water, turmeric powder and amudham oil for His bath.

The Yadalams were the first people to get a robe made for Bhagawan. It was light grey in colour and not of full length. Bhagawan materilised a Peetham (pedestal) to keep idols. He did not give any idol. He said, “I am here in the centre of the Peetham. On either side me stand Parvathi and Paramaeshewar. On another occasion, He materialised a yellow Kafni worn by Sai Baba of Shirdi for Yadalam Nagamma.

Once in 1946 Yadalam Venkataramanappa, suddenly lost sensation in his knees and was bedridden all the time, unable to walk. People at Bukkapatnam teased the Yadalam family: “You have allowed a Bhat Raju to enter your house. That is when you are suffering so much. Can your Sai Baba cure you? Some even went to Puttaparthi and asked Bhagawan: “Your devotee Venkataramanappa is suffering with leg pain. You have not done anything. Can you not cure him?” Bhagawan replied, “I know what to do, I will walk to Bukkapatnam and cure his disease.” That night, some one called out for Venkataramanappa is front of his house. On opening the door, the family was pleasantly to see Bhagawan Himself standing there in the middle of night. Bhagawan went to Venkataramanappa, held his hand and asked him to get up and walk. He even materialised dates for him and personally made him eat them. By the time, Bhagawan left for Puttaparthi in this morning, Venkataramanappa was perfectly well again.

The following year another touching episode occurred in connection with the Yadalam family. Yadalam Nagamma had gone to Mudugubba, 38 kilometres from Puttaparthi to attend the marriage of a close relative. She had been injured in a fire accident, suffering from burns on the body and face. Nagamma did not want to go back to Bukkapatnam with her swollen sepsis-infected face. She went instead to her native place, Kothakota. In His own mysterious way, Bhagawan was aware of the accident. He instructed Nagamma’s daughter-in-law, Janakamma, who had by then reached Puttaparthi with the terrible news, to arrange to fetch Nagamma to Puttaparthi. They Yadalam family did as Bhagawan bid them. Bhagawan materialised vibhuti and applied it all over her body. He even mixed it in some food and made her eat it. Early next morning, to everybody’s surprise, Nagamma’s face was whole and clean.

Bhagawan had once suggested to the Yadalams to open a grocery shop at Puttaparthi, but they did not want to do business in Bhagawan’s place and develop desires. They wanted to keep business away from devotion. Such was their faith and devotion to Bhagawan.

R. Padmanaban

Reference

Yadalams Bukkapatnam

Yadalams Bukkapatnam

Dattatreya Siva Baba – A New Age Of Enlightenment

Moon Power

Moon Power


Dattatreya Siva Baba, The YouTube Guru, Predicts A New Age Of Enlightenment Starting On This Month’s Full Moon
David Ian Miller
Monday, July 14, 2008

Dattatreya Siva Baba has a vision that the human race will transform itself by the light of the full moon.

You could say that he’s a dreamer or even hopelessly naive, and you could be right. But what does it hurt to dream?

Baba, 60, an Indian mystic and teacher who counts among his students the best-selling author Wayne Dyer, is known to many followers as the “YouTube Guru” because of his frequent video transmissions on everything from yogic meditation practices to quantum mechanics.

Lately he’s been talking online about something he calls “The Grace Light,” a divine light that he believes will usher in a new era of compassion and enlightenment for the human race, starting with this month’s full moon. He is holding a series of ceremonies in 20 cities to welcome the light, beginning at San Francisco’s Grace Cathedral on July 17 2008, coinciding with a traditional Vedic celebration called the “Full Moon of the Guru.”

The bookish, white-bearded man, whose given name is Baskaran Pillai, belongs to the Tamil Siddha tradition of Southern India, an esoteric order whose origins can be traced to the eighth century. I interviewed him last week in San Diego, where he lives for half the year when he’s not India.

Tell me about the “Full Moon of the Guru.” What is it all about?

The moon is associated with consciousness, particularly with the right brain. Each phase of the moon carries its own special energy. The full moon represents enlightenment, which is the full flowering of consciousness.

On the Vedic calendar, Guru Purnima, or the “Full Moon of the Guru,” is the full moon that falls near the summer solstice, the month of greatest light. This full moon is important because it is the time when all divine teachers shower blessings on the earth providing increased energy for our spiritual awakening. It represents spiritual renewal of the planet. Guru Purnima is celebrated not just in my tradition, but in all traditions that follow the Vedic calendar.

And you believe this upcoming full moon is particularly significant. Why is that?

This year, called Sarvadari, is the year of enlightenment that repeats itself every 60 years. Every time this cycle comes, there is potential for the world to receive greater intelligence. This is the year of enlightenment, and the special full moon of Guru Purnima signifies the beginning of a new age of enlightenment on the earth.

The divine guidance that I’ve received through meditation and the insights of Vedic astrology suggest that this Sarvadari is the beginning of the transition to a new age that will last not just 60 years, but for a thousand years or more. The exact beginning will be December 2012, but the transition period is happening now. Changes will be felt all over the globe on both an individual and collective level.

What will happen? More light will be available to humanity to achieve higher states of consciousness. My lineage calls this Grace Light. Grace Light is the incredibly radiant light of the Divine within us — compassionate, intelligent and almighty. Grace Light will open our hearts and minds into love.

Is this light that people can see?

It’s more like an energy or an aura.

You’ve said the full moon will bring a new era of enlightenment and compassion, and that there will be an opportunity to solve many of the world’s most vexing problems. That would be a miracle, to say the least. What makes you so certain that will happen now?

The potential exists because of the prevailing energies of this time. It is a cosmological phenomenon, rather than a sociopolitical statement.

You mentioned 2012 as being the time when the Grace Light comes out most strongly. Is this tied in with predictions that some people have made — others have disputed — about the end of the Mayan calendar? Why this focus on 2012?

Everything in the universe is cyclical. The Hindus believe that time periods or epochs rotate in what they call “Yugas.” We are coming to the end of one Yuga (the Kali Yuga or “age of darkness”), and beginning of another (the Satya Yuga or “age of truth”). The Mayans believed the world would end in 2012, but that should be considered metaphorically. It is the end of a certain era of human evolution, and the beginning of another. All the values and the assumptions of the previous world age will expire and a new phase of human growth will begin. The Greeks and Egyptians also believed in the shifting of the ages is an astronomical phenomenon. There are many traditions recognizing 2012 as a major transition point between the last cycle and a new one.

Some religious leaders take the opposite view. They say the human race won’t survive. What do you think about the visions of apocalypse or “end times” predicted by Christians, for example?

There will certainly be natural and man-made calamities prior to the dawning of this new era of enlightenment, or the Golden Age. Between now and 2012, there will certainly be seemingly apocalyptic happenings. The world will not be destroyed, but it will be cleansed of negativity, ignorance, hatred and conflict. The calamities will draw people to find answers in spirituality and metaphysics. This will be a return to God from an age that has relied exclusively on reasoning. Human values, like caring for our fellow beings and extending compassion to those living in poverty, will return to the forefront.

Many spiritual teachers, such as yourself, talk about the interconnectedness of all things. Yet people seem as self-obsessed as ever. What hope is there that this will change in our lifetime?

For the past 200 years, we have made phenomenal progress on the material dimension. Science and technology have given us more physical comforts and greater longevity. But at the same time, the annihilation of our civilization through nuclear war or other man-made threats is a dismal possibility. Einstein foresaw this very clearly when the nuclear program was started.

We are at a crossroad. Either we can destroy our civilization or create a new world order through Love. We can choose to live in peace and cooperation. It’s certainly not a good idea to fight and die. It is prudent to love and live. This is not a great philosophy but a simple, practical truth. The necessary changes will occur because of Grace Light. As more and more people begin to receive and share this Grace Light there will be gradual change toward peace, security and prosperity.

After hearing you describe your vision, I feel compelled to ask: Why should anyone believe what you are saying? It seems like you’re asking people to trust you on faith.

I have a nonreligious definition of faith. Faith is utter positivity. Currently, we operate on doubt and cynicism. We doubt we can find a fulfilling relationship, we doubt our finances will improve, we doubt our health will recover. What good is there to continue this negative mode based on doubt? Has it gotten us anywhere? Faith means holding a positive possibility and wishing good for oneself, others and for the entire world.

What happens if you’re wrong? Couldn’t that be damaging to give people false hope?

It is better to be positive than negative. In all of life, those who stay open and receptive to positive happenings will live in hope instead of despair.

You are holding public ceremonies in 20 cities, including San Francisco, to “transmit the Grace Light for physical and emotional healing.” What exactly will you be doing?

There are two components to these public blessings. First, I explain the phenomenon of Grace Light. Grace Light is the light of God. It is higher intelligence. It is unconditional love. The second part is the practical aspect — awakening Grace Light within the subtle body. The subtle body carries power centers called chakras. On July 17, I will lead people through a guided meditation to awaken the navel, heart and third-eye chakras. Participants will pair up and both “give” and “receive” Grace Light, repeating the process several times to firmly establish Grace Light in the subtle body. The only thing required is for people to be in a receptive mode.

I have incarnated innumerable times as a saint or sage in nearly every religion to be a conduit for Grace Light to relieve the suffering of humanity. Even so, I am only one conduit to receive and spread the light. Who is going to transmit it? Every single person who receives it will also be capable of transmitting it. Grace Light is the most intelligent light and will provide everyone with exactly what they need. It is providence answering one’s prayers.

You belong to the Tamil Siddha tradition of Southern India. What are its main tenets, if you can sum them up briefly?

The Tamil Siddhas’ primary focus is on human evolution. Currently our body-mind lives in ignorance. The body picks up diseases because it doesn’t know a state of perfect health. Similarly, the mind is unable to live our full mental potential. The Tamil Siddhas have a comprehensive approach to perfect our body-mind through their sciences. The Siddha sciences include meditation, astrology and herbal medicine.

Did you grow up in a religious family? How did you become a spiritual teacher for others?

Yes, I was born into a religious family in a holy city called Rameswaram, which is a major pilgrimage center for the Hindus in Southern India. Right from childhood I have always known my mission was to bring spirituality to the world. I was fascinated by science, but also knew its limitations. I spent much of my boyhood at the temple and, even when I was young, I was attracted to the miracles performed by the Siddhas, Buddha, Jesus, Mohammad and others.

Who were your teachers? Are you part of a particular lineage?

I have had many teachers belonging to different schools within the rich traditions of India. Although I was born in the Tamil Siddha lineage, I have often been eclectic in my approach. In my opinion, every religion and its prophets have something to teach us. It is better to learn from them rather than to ignore or reject them. I have been a student of comparative religion all my life. It has only enriched my intellectual understanding as well as my spiritual experience. I studied under Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in my early years, and then was initiated by a powerful but lesser-known guru into the deep and esoteric tradition of the Goddess.

You have written that the “purpose of life is God realization.” What does that mean to you?

The term “God realization” should be understood properly. The problem starts with the English word “God.” In my tradition, God is denoted by several terms like “Deva,” “Brahmin,” “Paramatman,” “Ishvara.” These terms denote higher states of consciousness. God symbolizes the awakening into a higher form of life. Currently, we have compromised ourselves to live the human reality of limited consciousness, pain, disease and death. God realization means evolving to a higher state of consciousness that is latent within every human being. Most of us simply do not realize that we are gods. When we know that we are God, when we experience the state of fully awakened consciousness, then we are God-realized.

You are known as the “YouTube Guru.” What gave you the idea to start posting your videos online?

I have always been a very practical teacher. I’m also interested in new technology. YouTube’s motto is “broadcast yourself.” I like the idea of delivering free teachings to as many people as possible who may be suffering and in need of help.

People have been sending me e-mails from Egypt, Qatar, South Africa, Europe, all parts of the world. I have been able to share the Grace Light message with tens of thousands of people within a matter weeks. All this has become possible because of the interconnectedness of our technologies.

I noticed that you studied English literature as an undergraduate in India. What drew you to that area of study? What’s your favorite English-language book and why? What are you reading lately?

As a matter of fact, I have two master’s degrees in English literature. Maybe the Divine prepared me to learn the language well so that I could use it as a primary mode of my teaching. I’ve always had a special love of Shakespeare’s works — “Othello” is my favorite play. I also have interest in American literature and enjoy Faulkner’s “As I Lay Dying,” as it reveals the human agenda. These days, however, I am most interested in preparing humanity to receive the Grace Light.

Reference

Coming New Age

Coming New Age